The Australian Surrogacy Podcast Episode 66: The Fourth Trimester with Katrina Hale.

You might like to listen to our episodes on the Third Trimester and Birth Planning.

In this episode, Katrina and I talked about the fourth trimester in a surrogacy arrangement. Katrina has a formula for how to plan for the fourth trimester, which includes:

  • the intended parents and surrogate being within a doorway of each other for the first 3-5 days;
  • the intended parents and surrogate being within 10 minutes of each other for the first 2 weeks; and
  • the intended parents and surrogate being within a phone call of each other for the first 3 months.

Katrina has created a guide for intended parents for the fourth trimester, which you can download.

Whilst the distances are figurative (you might not be within a doorway physically, but should expect to be able to knock on each others’ doors at any time for those days), the idea is that the parties gradually wean from each other. Intended parents who live interstate from their surrogate, should expect to be nearby for at least the first two weeks.

Katrina also acknowledges that the fourth trimester can be difficult for the intended parents. Like other parents, they are likely to be completely consumed with their new baby, and suffering with sleep deprivation. But on top of that, they also have the responsibility of making sure their surrogate is well and supported, and that she feels loved and appreciated. They can show this with messages and photos (of them with their baby, not just the baby).

The team might also like to prepare for ways the intended parents can provide practical support for the surrogate and her family. This might include arranging for a cleaner to visit for the first few weeks, and freezing meals for them, and helping with driving (if she can’t drive after the birth).

For the surrogate, she’ll be experiencing all the hormonal and bodily changes that comes with being post-partum. She’ll also have everyone asking “are you ok?” from having given away her baby. Surrogates might like to plan nice things to do for themselves during this time, to keep them occupied, care for themselves and allow them to transition to the new normal.

You can listen to more interviews with Katrina Hale and read more about planning for the birth and the fourth trimester. And read more about what to expect during the surrogacy counselling.

You can find more information in the free Surrogacy Handbook, and by listening to more episodes of the Podcast. You can also book in for a consult with me below.

If you are entering a surrogacy arrangement, you will need to complete surrogacy counselling with a qualified counsellor.

Katrina has previously appeared on the Podcast at Episode 32. She has also created a list of Twenty Things to Think About When Choosing Your Surrogacy Relationship.

If you are considering becoming a surrogate, you can read more about that here.

You can hear stories from intended parents and surrogates on the Surrogacy Podcast.

You can find all the details of the surrogacy laws that apply to you.

You can also purchase my book, More Than Just a Baby: A Guide to Surrogacy for Intended Parents and Surrogates, the only guide to surrogacy in Australia.

You can find more information in the free Surrogacy Handbook, reading articles in the Blog, by listening to more episodes of the Surrogacy Podcast. You can also book in for a consult with me below, and check out the legal services I provide.

Hi! I’m Sarah Jefford (she/her). I’m a family creation lawyer, practising in surrogacy and donor conception arrangements. I’m an IVF mum, an egg donor and a traditional surrogate, and I delivered a baby for two dads in 2018

I advocate for positive, best practice surrogacy arrangements within Australia, and provide support and education to help intended parents make informed decisions when pursuing overseas surrogacy.

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